tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post2171368972940155591..comments2023-08-02T01:48:17.842-07:00Comments on The Dark Eldar Kabal: Building a Dark Eldar Army List; Part 3: The Dark Eldar Lord & IncubiCuchulain84http://www.blogger.com/profile/07169712457712651454noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-47516368697170893742010-11-05T04:34:31.314-07:002010-11-05T04:34:31.314-07:00New dark eldar are out now. Update this!New dark eldar are out now. Update this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-35062745035842843542010-05-24T21:14:18.699-07:002010-05-24T21:14:18.699-07:00The Incubi Master is quite a viable and overlooked...The Incubi Master is quite a viable and overlooked model in many DE armies. The extra Initiative and Attack with a Power Weapon is worth the 18 points let alone access to the Wargear list. Add Drazhar to the unit and it is nigh on unstoppable in Close Combat with a tooled up Archon. That is a combination I use most of the time. My opponents have a hard time dealing with a unit that slaughters all it encounters. Monstrous Creatures rarely survive an assault with this combo and 90% of the time they progress from one side of my opponents deployment zone to the other. The other 10% is when they slaughter a squad in my turn and they have no cover to consolidate into giving my opponent a free firing turn on the squad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-48524127694878225482010-04-26T18:32:59.424-07:002010-04-26T18:32:59.424-07:00Except if i remember right, the entry of punisher ...Except if i remember right, the entry of punisher states it cannot be used with any other weapon, hence meaning the Incubi does have to lose its punisher.<br /><br />I strongly recommend in an assault squad taking ablative warrior wounds. The first reason is that power weapons and power fists should be taken on them when possible. This both saves your incubi and lord, but it also can reduce the amount you win combat by, which can be vital if you want to win combat in their turn, rather then yours (and then get shot). Of course this can back fire if you fail to wound, and you lose combat due to warriors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-82974226745243536222010-03-22T14:28:47.797-07:002010-03-22T14:28:47.797-07:00Actually you don't lose the punisher on upgrad...Actually you don't lose the punisher on upgrading to Blaster.<br />That was a rule written into the third and fourth edition books that you couldn't have more than one twohanded weapon.<br />Now it's written into the codex what units upgrades weapons with, and Incubi just state they may be given, not that they exchange their punishersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-89224082230624554332010-03-15T06:07:39.679-07:002010-03-15T06:07:39.679-07:00Hi, not sure it belongs here but what is your take...Hi, not sure it belongs here but what is your take on the nightmare doll in 5th ed.? The way I read it, you can use it to force a reroll of the die to determine first turn. I blatantly use this to ensure a (hopefully) crippling alpha-strike with DLs and Disintegrators. Using a raider and combat drugs this also all but guarantees a first turn charge by your archon. Or am I bending the rules here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-37094272932519191512010-03-03T00:34:26.616-08:002010-03-03T00:34:26.616-08:00Oops, I'd overlooked that Warrior's in Ret...Oops, I'd overlooked that Warrior's in Retinues can't take Blasters. I agree that losing a Punisher for a Blaster isn't worth it. So I can see how the Splinter Cannon is the more viable option now.Cuchulain84https://www.blogger.com/profile/07169712457712651454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-10418391731139442952010-03-02T22:09:00.535-08:002010-03-02T22:09:00.535-08:00Just as far as Blasters in retinues go - I am stro...Just as far as Blasters in retinues go - I am strongly against paying for an Incubi and then paying more for the right to remove his Punisher. The S.Cannon is superior because you can hand it to a Warrior and not affect the h2h potential of the unit. It is unfortunate you cannot equip Blasters to Warriors in a retinue.Thor665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-5835283850336771122010-03-02T10:00:57.537-08:002010-03-02T10:00:57.537-08:00@yergerjo. I'll be going into Special Characte...@yergerjo. I'll be going into Special Characters and Wych Lords in another article. This one was getting far too long to fit it all in!Cuchulain84https://www.blogger.com/profile/07169712457712651454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-4720094525141506932010-03-02T07:11:40.019-08:002010-03-02T07:11:40.019-08:00Until about 1500 I use the Dracon with Shadowfield...Until about 1500 I use the Dracon with Shadowfield and Incubi.<br /><br />Beyond that point yes an Archon is needed, until you reach 2000 then it goes back to a Dracon becaase you have brought Asdrubael Vect into the game.<br /><br />For your 2nd HQ slot it is strongly advised you use a Drachite with Agonizer, Drugs, and Plasma Grenades. For about 90 points you get a great killy HQ that can jump squad to squad, and has an Invul save (4+ in CC, just like the other Wyches).yergerjohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02299904411848499414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-45081382622641810732010-03-02T00:32:56.459-08:002010-03-02T00:32:56.459-08:00Thanks for the comment guys. I've implemented ...Thanks for the comment guys. I've implemented most of your suggestions. I wouldn't recommend using Splinter Cannons in an Incubi Retinue though tbh. I don't think it has enough synergy with the power weapons. I've suggested Blasters instead seeing as they're cheaper and more likely to kill an MEQ.<br /><br />Thanks for saying you like the scheme too. The theme in my army is white is top of the hierachy and blue at the bottom. So the more white your armour is the more badass you are.Cuchulain84https://www.blogger.com/profile/07169712457712651454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-39994518742361409932010-03-01T22:40:01.626-08:002010-03-01T22:40:01.626-08:00I'll second the paint scheme - the all bone mo...I'll second the paint scheme - the all bone motif looks really nice next to the darker shades of the rest of your army.<br /><br />The Lance dracon is a viable option in gunline builds especially. Even if you don't buy into the concept of keeping him and his squad in their Raider you should also probably buy the Raider for them since it is yet another Lance platform and gunline DE wants 18+ lances more then likely.<br /><br />I'll note you misrepresented the Animus Vitae by accident. You get to activate it when you 'capture' a model, not 'kill' one. The front of the codex has the particulars, but basically you have to cause your opponent to fall back from combat.<br /><br />You also may wish to add some thoughts on the benefits of the mixed Retinue. You can make the unit more affordable and more shooty by fielding 3 Incubi and 2 Warriors with Splinter Cannons for instance - or maybe just field basic Warriors with your Incubi so when you're hit with a P.Fist/Klaw you can drop the wound on the Warrior and not have to risk your Lord or lose an expensive Incubi.Thor665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1772567476976767812.post-91346935502800812552010-03-01T12:37:25.503-08:002010-03-01T12:37:25.503-08:00Hi,
Great article, only thing I think you missed ...Hi,<br /><br />Great article, only thing I think you missed is a cheap dracon dark lance squad (for when you've used all the troop choices).<br /><br />A dracon, 5 warriors with 2 dark lances is 105 pts, compared to 10 warriors with 2 dark lances it's 5 pts more expensive, and has 4 less wounds (but higher ld). So it's not as good as a troops choice but can be useful for fitting more dark lances into a list.<br /><br />A few more warriors can be added to offset the low unit size of the retinue, but normally i find it unnecessary hidden behind other warriors carrying more dark lances.<br /><br />Rathstar<br /><br />PS. Love the paint scheme on the retinueRathstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08799690336241322474noreply@blogger.com